Talk:Romani people

No Citation For English and Welsh Romani People Being Preferred to be Called "Gypsies"

When reading the article, I noticed that one of the lines says "However, this is not always the case; for example, the term is actually preferred by most English and Welsh Romanies, and is used to refer to them in government documentation." It then shows 3 citations however none of them prove that the English and Welsh Romanies prefer being called that. I never used Wikipedia before so I have no idea how to but I think that it should get deleted as it is making an anecdotal statement with no proof. Bluntilda (talk) 08:54, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

I haven't checked yet, but if the claim is unsupported by its citations, you are free (and in this cause I will say encouraged) to remove it, with the policy being that it shouldn't be readded unless an inline citation to a reliable source is provided. Remsense诉 08:59, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

they should add this statement to the study on Wikipedia

(25) Within the H-M82 haplogroup, an identical 8-microsatellite Y chromo-some haplotype is shared by nearly 30% of Gypsy men, an astonishing degree of preservation of a highly differentiated lineage, previously described only in Jewish priests. https://med.stanford.edu PDF A newly discovered founder population: the Roma/Gypsies - Stanford Medicine 95.90.255.134 (talk) 22:45, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Poor citation on unanimous agreement at the 1st Romani Congress

The citation used is a student paper which has an unsourced quote from Ian Hancock - a real professor of Romani studies, but the quote is not available when searching for it otherwise. If anyone has access to this journal https://catalogue.georgepadmoreinstitute.org/records/JOU/1/1/26 it should have a transcript of the actual meeting. 2A01:4B00:8293:4400:7D1C:A7EC:7D0E:1905 (talk) 11:45, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Incorrect Detail

Article is completely wrong and full of propaganda. 86.98.59.241 (talk) 21:46, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

I doubt it's completely wrong. The assertion is not useful without specifics. _signed, Willondon (talk) 22:28, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

External links

Twenty-four links and six subsections. All of the links were moved here for any possible discussion and consensus on any inclusion per policies and guidelines

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• This is indicative that there should be an actual reason for link inclusion and not just to add sites, ending up in the middle of What Wikipedia is not -- Otr500 (talk)

Rationale for moving

The "External links" section is one of the optional appendices. Three seems to be an acceptable number and of course, everyone has their favorite to try to add for a forth.

The problem is that none is needed for article promotion.

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External links from article

European countries Roma links

• "European Roma Institute for Arts and Culture (ERIAC)".
• History the Roma and Sinti in Germany.
• "General introduction", History of the Roma in Austria, AT: Uni Graz, archived from the original on 7 April 2022, retrieved 28 October 2013.
• "History of the Roma in Czech Republic". CZ: Rommuz. Archived from the original on 28 October 2013.
• Deportation, EU: Romas Inti, archived from the original on 15 December 2013, retrieved 28 October 2013. History of some Roma Europeans
• Gypsies in France, 1566–2011, FYI France, archived from the original on 19 May 2011, retrieved 28 October 2010; The concentration, labor, ghetto camps that the Roma were persecuted in during World War II
• Auschwitz, archived from the original on 6 May 2012, retrieved 28 October 2013.
• "Hodonin", History: Camps, CZ: Holocaus.
• History, CZ: Lety memorial, archived from the original on 26 March 2017, retrieved 28 October 2013.
• "The situation of the Roma in the European Union" (resolution). European Parliament. 28 April 2005. Archived from the original on 26 December 2007..
• "Final report on the human rights situation of the Roma, Sinti and travellers in Europe". The European Commissioner for Human rights (Council of Europe). 15 February 2006..
• Shot in remote areas of the Thar desert in west India, Jaisalmer Ayo: Gateway of the Gypsies on YouTube captures the lives of vanishing nomadic communities who are believed to share common ancestors with the Roma people – released 2004

General information

• "RomArchive" (in English, German, and Romany). — education on the arts and civil rights movements
• "Romani Atlantic". — transcontinental perspective

International organisations

• Action Plan on Improving the Situation of Roma and Sinti within the OSCE Area.

Non-governmental organisations

• European Roma Rights Centre.
• The Gypsy Lore Society. Beginning in 1888, the Gypsy Lore Society started to publish a journal that was meant to dispel rumors about their lifestyle.

Museums and libraries

• Museum of Romani Culture (in Czech), Brno, CZ.
• Studii romani (specialized library with archive), Sofia, BG, archived from the original on 21 August 2006, retrieved 21 August 2006.
• Documentation and Cultural Centre of German Sinti and Roma, Heidelberg, DE.
• Ethnographic Museum (in Polish), Tarnów, PL.
• "Who we Were, Who we Are: Kosovo Roma Oral History Collection". March 2004. Archived from the original on 17 May 2017. Retrieved 8 May 2018. The most comprehensive collection of information on Kosovo's Roma in existence.

Internet Visual Media

• Inaugural Romani Studies Conference at UC Berkeley: YouTube
• Florian: YouTube TikTok - Romani YouTuber & TikToker whose material covers Roma culture, history, and civil rights

-- Otr500 (talk) 02:52, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

"Gypsies" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Gypsies has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 October 16 § Gypsy until a consensus is reached. Bug Ghost🦗👻 12:01, 16 October 2024 (UTC)